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Line 11: Players can run faster than most creatures to get away {{Tracker\|3020813}} Player can eat while fighting. {{Tracker\|3020115}} == Voice == * A voiceover might be an effective way to get information to new players (we need a warning if they have no sound) * An in-character introduction when you create your account was suggested Line 23 ⟶ 26: * Marking dangerous zones, or more general, making suggestions to player which zones are good for their level. * a compas or a thermometer which shows danger of the zone for example * should dangerous areas be marked using colors on the map? * Excel file listing number of creatures and their level in every zone: [http://stendhalgame.org/wiki/images/9/99/Zone_statistics_without_collision.xls Zone_statistics_without_collision.xls] * A zone is something like int_semos_bank, 0_semos_city (see column A) Line 40 ⟶ 45: ** quest rewards? * laguz is going to work on the creature based approach ~~<div style="background-color:#FCC; padding: 1em; border: 3px solid red">~~ ~~= TODO =~~ == New dungeons == Line 54 ⟶ 52: * please join #arianne on irc to discuss the creation of new dungeons in great detail * more guidance for players to find areas that are save for them <div style="background-color:#FCC; padding: 1em; border: 3px solid red"> = TODO = == First steps of new players / new quests == Line 86 ⟶ 87: == New quests == [20:37] <torvald> what about some nice new quest rewards? [20:3739] <~~love_puppet~~omero> how about ~~ramdom~~a ~~events~~'cheque' you can spend at a one of the seller npc? [20:37] <banki> eyah that would be nice [20:37] <superkym> torvald: items, or other fresh ideas? [20:38] <hendrikus> For example? [20:38] <omero> a compas which shows danger of the zone [20:38] <Oslsachem> like what, torvald? [20:38] <omero> or a termometer... [20:38] <love_puppet> when your playing the game you could be ramdom teleported to an area and asked to do some thing [20:38] <hendrikus> omero, we need a good way to calcualte "danger of a zone" automatically. There was some talking about that earlier today. [20:38] <torvald> well, for example a bank book, where you can see all your bank accounts. saves you from making screen shots [20:39] <tigertoes> great idea [20:39] <banki> or a mount for faste travling? [20:39] <superkym> hmmm but i try to avoid things which actually make the game rather too easy [20:39] <hendrikus> love_puppet at a random time? Or to a random place when doing something like using an orb? [20:39] <love_puppet> just ramdom [20:39] <omero> how about a 'cheque' you can spend at a one of the seller npc? [20:39] <superkym> being able to remember where you put things or come up with your own organisation system, is a challenge i like [20:39] <superkym> like in real life. [20:39] <love_puppet> it was on a nother game to get peple who where botting [20:40] <love_puppet> but for the peoople at thare computer it was good [20:40] <~~superkym~~love_puppet> itmoney ~~could~~items ~~be a~~just good ~~quest~~thing ~~reward~~for ~~but~~doing ~~maybe~~simple ~~not~~stuff aslike ankilling item you alwaysa ~~keep~~rat [20:40] <torvald> in real life you have bank books ;-) [20:40] <love_puppet> money items just good thing for doing simple stuff [20:40] <love_puppet> like killing a rat [20:40] <hendrikus> Sounds rather anoying to me when you are traveling with a group of friends and random people disapear. [20:40] <superkym> torvald: oops, i am not organised enough in real life :P [20:40] <love_puppet> some thing any player could do [20:40] <laguz> couldnt we add the option to buy more space for the chests? [20:40] <superkym> laguz, we are (slowly) working on containers [20:41] <superkym> so that you can buy or get rewarded a bag, a box, etc [20:41] <kezman> in areas dangerous to level up marked for color on the map [20:41] <love_puppet> but it kept u at your computer cus if u dident complete it in the time amount u where sent back to a ramdom area (a town) and u didenty ger the items [20:41] <kezman> also in caves ? [20:41] <laguz> ok [20:41] <hendrikus> You already get more space as you grow stronger and get access to banks in more cities. [20:41] <love_puppet> but it was worth it [20:41] <love_puppet> the last one that happenden to be i was asked to open the blue chest [20:42] <love_puppet> and i grew 2 lvls [20:42] <love_puppet> and when u where done u where sent right back to where u where [20:42] <love_puppet> as the tasks dident take long at all to complete [20:38] <torvald> well, for example a bank book, where you can see all your bank accounts. saves you from making screen shots [20:39] <banki> or a mount for fast travling? [20:39] <superkym> hmmm but i try to avoid things which actually make the game rather too easy [20:39] <superkym> being able to remember where you put things or come up with your own organisation system, is a challenge i like [20:39] <superkym> like in real life. [20:40] <superkym> it could be a good quest reward but maybe not as an item you always* keep [20:40] <torvald> in real life you have bank books ;-) [20:40] <superkym> torvald: oops, i am not organised enough in real life :P == More storage == [20:40] <laguz> couldnt we add the option to buy more space for the chests? [20:40] <superkym> laguz, we are (slowly) working on containers [20:41] <superkym> so that you can buy or get rewarded a bag, a box, etc [20:41] <hendrikus> You already get more space as you grow stronger and get access to banks in more cities. [20:41] <superkym> Indeed. You'd be surprised how many players don't seem to use their ados chests or the zara house chest at all! [20:41] <love_puppet> the last one that happenden to be i was asked to open the blue chest [20:42] <love_puppet> and i grew 2 lvls [20:42] <madmetzger> i think most players are too lazy to walk there or spend scrolls for it [20:42] <omero> there's a chest in zara's house?! [20:42] <love_puppet> and when u where done u where sent right back to where u where [20:42] <superkym> oops, i should not be a spoiler. [20:42] <Oslsachem> in real life people don't want to have many accounts either for basically the same purpose [20:42] <omero> lol [20:42] <tigertoes> :) [20:42] <love_puppet> as the tasks dident take long at all to complete [20:42] <torvald> another thing would be to include information from the web site. as for example a creature lexicon, where you can see drops and their likelyhood by clicking on a creature [20:43] <laguz> to buy space for semos chest is a good reason to take much of the players money^^ [20:43] hendrikus has bank accounts at two different banks in real life. [20:43] <hendrikus> in real life. [20:43] <superkym> i think that changing the size of the chest like that mid-game, mid-player life, would be hard. [20:43] <hendrikus> Yes. Line 162 ⟶ 149: [20:47] <superkym> i cannot imagine a bank chest in a dungeon in real life. [20:47] <omero> but a pot, a sack... a smal cache of things for planned trips to lower levels [20:47] <storyteller> Well, to the ~~webside~~website thing: In my opinion the webside should be made more attractive, also to be made interactive to use by the way while playing [20:47] <omero> you have to build up a reserve there... [20:47] <Oslsachem> it's just a chest. The bank label is due to the place it is. Line 259 ⟶ 246: [21:03] <blazins> but if there is because they trust </div> ~~== Translating rules ==~~ [21:03] <superkym> yes, to be honest isn't it the first rule of internet use? [21:03] <tigertoes> i agree hendrikus, but not everyone agrees, there are many cultures here, not all agree [21:03] <superkym> for me it is 'ingrained' just like 'don't touch this hot pan' [21:03] <superkym> tigertoes, can you help with translation? [21:03] <tigertoes> i know english only [21:03] <Oslsachem> how about internationalization? it is a great hurdle for increasing our userbase and sth that will need to be dealt with sooner or later. [21:03] <omero> I can help translating the rules in italian [21:03] <hendrikus> Oh? No foreign language?! [21:03] <superkym> tigertoes, i think oslachem already did a spanish translation of the rules. if you can recruit others to help that is fine. [21:03] <tigertoes> nope [21:04] <tigertoes> i do know a few different persons of other cultures, i might try [21:04] <hendrikus> thank you. [21:04] <killerm> hey hendrik [21:04] <killerm> in a very short time I change of state are therefore my IP `there is not any problem CAMVIA [21:04] <tigertoes> ok [21:05] <Oslsachem> I can give it a try to portuguese, french or italian with the help of a translator :) [21:05] <hendrikus> But I like to ask for some testers. == Testing web starter == Line 287 ⟶ 256: * it works for axelf, but he only sees the coffee icon instead of the stendhal logo icon * tigertoes is missing box of text == Getting the word out == * I did some research into how people learn about new games and new applications and 'word of mouth' was the best method * So, anyone who has a blog, or some site they can post links, to tell their friends what they are doing, do please feel free to share about Stendhal :) * how many players can be on at once? [21:14] <tigertoes> i wanted to say something about the advertsing for new playuers, i saw you said something kym but didnt see what * don't worry about player number limits. [21:16] <superkym> tigertoes, it was a comment that 'word of mouth' seems to be really successful, So to advertise to more people I would ask that people who have blogs or other sites that they can post text or oi links on would share the game :) * stendhalgame.org is a real server in a real data center. [21:16] <tigertoes> oh, i was gonna say something on facebook and try to encourage them to try as there are so many problems now with facebook and their apps * it can handle a lot more players and traffic than all the other Stendhal clone server hosted on home internet connections. [21:17] <tigertoes> but how many players can be on at once? [21:17] <superkym> tigertoes: don't worry about player number limits. [21:18] <hendrikus> stendhalgame.org is a real server in a real data center. <div style="background-color:#FCC; padding: 1em; border: 3px solid red"> [21:19] <hendrikus> It can handle a lot more players and traffic than all the other Stendhal clone server hosted on home internet connections. = TODO = == Translating == === Translating rules === [21:03] <Oslsachem> how about internationalization? it is a great hurdle for increasing our userbase and sth that will need to be dealt with sooner or later. [21:03] <omero> I can help translating the rules in italian [21:03] <superkym> tigertoes, i think oslachem already did a spanish translation of the rules. if you can recruit others to help that is fine. [21:04] <tigertoes> i do know a few different persons of other cultures, i might try [21:05] <Oslsachem> I can give it a try to portuguese, french or italian with the help of a translator :) [21:05] <hendrikus> But I like to ask for some testers. === Translating game === [21:11] <Oslsachem> what's the position about internationalization? Line 342 ⟶ 324: [21:28] <hendrikus> Oslsachem we should discuss that at the next meeting or in #arianne. [21:28] <Oslsachem> ok, I'll give it a try and perhaps other will follow in other languages. </div> == Closing meeting == [21:28] <hendrikus> I like to thank everyone for attending. [21:29] <hendrikus> We will put up a chatlog and a summary on the wiki and put a link on http://stendhalgame.org [21:29] <hendrikus> Feel free to join us in #arianne at any time. ~~</div>~~

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