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 * porl: so i probably dont have to
 * blackfinix: ok then lets drop it
+== Multi layered Atlas image ==
 * hendrik: Does someone know how to work with multi layer images?
 * hendrik: I am asking because of the Atlas.
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 * hendrik: On the wiki page there is a link called: "100% scale map with dungeon entrances: [here] (a little outdated) "
 * superkym: and then it can be exported to png for display on the wiki
-* porl: hi
-* Maria: Hi, how can i help you?
-* porl: buy
-* Maria: Please tell me what you want to buy.
-* porl: offer
-* Maria: I sell beer, wine, flask, cheese, apple, carrot, meat, and ham.
-* porl: by meat
-* porl: buy meat
-* Maria: 1 piece of meat will cost 40. Do you want to buy it?
-* porl: ??
-* porl: no
-* Maria: Ok, how else may I help you?
-* porl: bye
 * plassy: what's with 2 png with transparency?
 * hendrik: plassy, sounds like a good idea. But how do you know where to draw the circles?
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 * superkym: and tigertoes has agreed to create the multilayered file
 * plassy: if you can generate the map and you know where the locations are positioned, then you can calculate the circle positions
-* porl: sentinel has another account mulinex, he equips mulinex with arrows and keeps on killing people
-* porl: its anoying
-* love_puppet: thare is nothing that says that you cant kill a nother player
-* bluekiller: yes
-* love_puppet: you just get a red skull making you as a player killer
-* bluekiller: jo:(
-* tigertoes: none of this has a thing to do with this meeting
-* porl: he is a thief!!!
-* bluekiller: i get my by train
-* porl: no
-* bluekiller: no attention
-* porl: bluekiller, u didnt get urs by train
-* love_puppet: if you do not want to get atked by him just go to a nother location and play thare
-* porl: u tried to kill me another day
-* bluekiller: ask guido
-* porl: remember?
-* bluekiller: oh
-* bluekiller: yes
-* porl: ok
-* porl: ill stop
-* bluekiller: but ask guido
-* porl: back to subject
-* bluekiller: jo
 * hendrik: another thing that can be done with the multi layer images is to draw the region borders in there.
+== Training ==
+* Oslsachem: heder suggests to make it easier to level up skills
+* love_puppet: like a training room?
+== First 5 minutes of new players ==
 * hendrik: There is one topic we skipped: The first 5 minutes of new players.
 * hendrik: I am not sure if we should discuss that now or call it a day.
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 * humana: yes that's important... cannot be that there are some names like porn, with that you can't login?
 * hendrik: we are now at about 50%.
+=== Prevent new players from getting lost ===
 * bluekiller: we can make arrows on the map for new players
 * bluekiller: so they know where they have to walk
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 * bluekiller: the other style from balrog was better:D
 * hendrik: and perhaps still put the city gate right to Carmen. So that this will become the prefered path to Nalwor for non-new players.
-* porl: who can go to nalwor with me??
+=== Warning new players running into dangerous zones ===
-* porl: lol
 * hendrik: Can we have zone entry messages that are level based?
 * superkym: i dont see why not
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 * kiheru: current code does not do them, but extending the functionality a bit would be easy
 * storyteller: Well, what about to do a quest, which leads the new player to a NPC in Semos City?
-* porl: i think this game should be more worried with graphics than new people having problems finding semos
+=== Losing Club on Death ===
 * hendrik: Some time ago it was possible to lose your club when being killed.
 * porl: it still is
 * hendrik: And you can not kill a rat easily with just your hands.
 * hendrik: It may be a good idea to prevent that.
-* gummipferd: hendrik, you mentioned a "small but closed training area for new players"... was somehow skipped. what exactly do you have in mind?
 * storyteller: hmm... maybe add a "basic damage"...
+* storyteller: for the players who lost their club
-* gummipferd: btw i like the gfx :)
 * storyteller: just 1 ATK or so...
-* Oslsachem: porl, what kind of graphics?
-* schneeflocke: bye
+=== Killing the first creature ===
-* storyteller: for the players who lost their club
-* hamunu: for cat
+* hendrik: It may be too difficult for new players to kill a rat because they are running away.
-* hamunu: sorry
-* kezman: :D
-* porl: have u ever played runescape
-* porl: make the graphics like that
-* porl: even better
-* Oslsachem: what version 2d or 3d?
-* hendrik: Please stick to the topic.
-* porl: this game is so cool, it has to become famous
-* porl: there wont be lots of people joining this while this has pokemon graphics
-* Oslsachem: in the end, it is gameplay which stands out and not graphics
-* Oslsachem: likewise in a film, in the end the plot stands over the special effects...
-* storyteller: True, Oslsachem
-* hendrik: Speaking of gameplay. IT may be too difficult for new players to kill a rat because they are running away.
 * superkym: gummipferd he didn't mean training like camping
 * superkym: just teaching about the game, i think
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 * hendrik: learn how to fight, how to talk to npcs, etc.
 * superkym: and perhaps it could even be in the guard house
-* porl: there should be a weapon with rate 0.3 or something
-* Oslsachem: I thought our target audience was pokemon players? ;)
 * storyteller: yes...hmm...
 * bluekiller: hoi
 * superkym: i think rats should be cowards, and they were made stupid cowards so they are easier to kill
 * superkym: (stupid cowards don't turn corners to run away)
-* heder: hi
-* Mayor Sakhs: Welcome citizen! Do you need help?
 * blackfinix: i guess you dont like rats in real life kym?
-* heder: quest
 * superkym: but the new player could be asked to kill something else
-* Mayor Sakhs: Semos is in need of help. Go kill a imperial elite archer and say complete, once you're done.
 * hendrik: Just in case anyone is wondering: superkym is talking about the AI profile.
 * Oslsachem: hendrik, the difficulty is mainly proportional to the space the rats have to run... :)
 * superkym: blackfinix ??
-* heder: bye
-* Mayor Sakhs: Have a good day and enjoy your stay!
 * bluekiller: they are in fado castle
 * bluekiller: or?
@@ Line 1,375: / Line 1,334: @@
 * storyteller: well, just something like that :)
 * Oslsachem: a cheese-rat
-* heder: quien me puede entender
-* heder: en español
 * storyteller: ^^
 * Mayor Sakhs: Have a good day and enjoy your stay!
@@ Line 1,406: / Line 1,363: @@
 * heder: make much raids
 * kiheru: or lets a rat out of a cage, or whatever
-* Oslsachem: heder suggests to make it easier to level up skills
-* love_puppet: like a training room?
-* heder: yes
-* bluekiller: hm
-* bluekiller: yes
-* superkym: we discussed that breifly and it was explained that the new rp means that training is a lot less necessary than it used to be
-* love_puppet: where u fight with a "puppet" hehe
-* bluekiller: a new weapon
-* bluekiller: rate
-* bluekiller: 0.5
-* bluekiller: atk
-* superkym: now, xp (which you get from killing things and actually playing the game) is a lot more important
-* bluekiller: 1 or 2
-* bluekiller: wait
 * Oslsachem: I was thinking about hayunn accidentally dropping the cheese while offering it to the player
 * blackfinix: which is the way it should be i think
-* bluekiller: we can make a new weapon
-* bluekiller: only for train
-* superkym: and we also talked briefly in the meeting earlier of how it would be good to make training need to be more active, if it is going to happen
-* bluekiller: rate 0.5 atk 1 or 2
-* heder: yes make new  weapon
-* superkym: there is a technical reson why rate 1 is the lowest possible
-* kiheru: it's not really possible to have rate < 1 (a strike every turn), and that's very fast already
-* heder: much weapons
-* bluekiller: no
-* bluekiller: on a polnish
-* bluekiller: there is a faste weapon
-* bluekiller: e see
-* bluekiller: I see
-* gummipferd: bluekiller have you only seen the weapon r also tried it?
-* superkym: really? they should be making their source code available if they are making modifications, perhaps you could ask them about this? :)
-* hendrik: there is an easy way: multiply the rate by 10.
-* bluekiller: i seen it a played there
-* bluekiller: I
-* bluekiller: realy
-* hendrik: currently 1 means ones per turn.
-* hendrik: But 1 can mean every 10 turns. Or say every 2 turns.
-* bluekiller: is 1 realy the fastest?
-* hendrik: So 0.5 means every turn.
-* erdnuggel: I think -how kym said- training is not so much necessary. To play the game is better I think than training :)
-* yoriy: :-)
-* superkym: ok guys, i'll go now
-* hendrik: training was important in the past. But now you are better if you don't waste your time with that.
-* bluekiller: yes
-* kiheru: lower would be possible with certain hacks, but is it really worth it?
-* superkym: nice to see you all
-* hendrik: I'd like to thank everyone for joining the meeting.
-* pepzs: =(
-* bluekiller: yes
-* hendrik: http://stendhal.game-host.org/wiki/index.php/Stendhal_Development_Meeting_2009-11-22
-* bluekiller: np
-* storyteller: Bye Kym! See you! :)
-* bluekiller: ok
-* yoriy: bye guys
-* pepzs: bye bye
-* yoriy: id have to go too
-* Oslsachem: ok
-* blackfinix: bye
 * plassy: i'll go too. i will have a look at the java sound api in the next week
-* Oslsachem: bye
-yoriy hugs all
-* hendrik: I put up the chat log there and will summarize it during the next week.
-* bluekiller: lol
-* superkym: thanks hendrik for chairing it

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