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[20:30] <borgomatic> "Your current game only goes to level 99? Turn it all the way up to 597! Come play on Stenhal! Free and always will be!"
[20:30] <borgomatic> "Your current game only goes to level 99? Turn it all the way up to 597! Come play on Stenhal! Free and always will be!"
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== Navigation menu ==
== Navigation menu ==
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== Translation ==
== Translation ==

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* [https://translate.google.com/ Google Translate] is pretty good, but has privacy issue
[20:25] <Morg> can i trow something out there? about translater?
* Using a browser to translate text works more or less. Need to pay attention not to be killed in game for example
[20:29] <Morg> i think it also would be good to have a translation box on here so you can talk to people without changing sites to try translating what they have to say
* Integrating Google Translate costs about $40 per month.
[20:33] <Bluelads4> not sure about a translation feature... most of these don't work in an accurate way
* More detailed discussion: https://sourceforge.net/p/arianne/feature-requests/1321/
[20:34] <jorgemartin> You can add a translation bar
[20:35] <Morg> its a hassle tho if someone talkes to you in a diffrent language you have to leave the site go to a translatiing site and then your luck you die
[20:36] <Bluelads4> it actually always worked for me with the translation thingy...or I placed my character into a save region before I opened a translator :)
[20:36] <kiheru> Morg: There was recently a feature request for translation for the client: https://sourceforge.net/p/arianne/feature-requests/1321/
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== Is the new integration of Wiki content a good idea and working properly? ==
== Is the new integration of Wiki content a good idea and working properly? ==
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[20:42] <hendrik> Can you try to give an example about the style?
[20:42] <hendrik> Can you try to give an example about the style?
[20:43] <Bluelads4> like some are using lots of information with a huge background story, others contain lots of items and stuff... it's more about the content of the pages here what I mean :)
[20:43] <Bluelads4> like some are using lots of information with a huge background story, others contain lots of items and stuff... it's more about the content of the pages here what I mean :)
[20:43] <jorgemartin> hi
[20:43] <jacqueline> hi
[20:43] <dustofatk> well the search dosnt work... at least unusable for more demanding stuff
[20:43] <dustofatk> well the search dosnt work... at least unusable for more demanding stuff
[20:44] <dustofatk> if u want to find dagobert quest u search for bank... no offer for the dagobert quest
[20:44] <dustofatk> if u want to find dagobert quest u search for bank... no offer for the dagobert quest
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[20:45] <dustofatk> i dont know dagobert
[20:45] <dustofatk> i dont know dagobert
[20:45] <dustofatk> i know there is a bank quest
[20:45] <dustofatk> i know there is a bank quest
[20:45] gepaecktraeger2 has left Stendhal.
[20:45] <Bluelads4> so you mean you want to search for a map name instead of a NPC for example?
[20:45] <Bluelads4> so you mean you want to search for a map name instead of a NPC for example?
[20:45] <dustofatk> im new i dont know names
[20:45] <dustofatk> im new i dont know names
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[20:46] <Horst> hallo
[20:46] <Horst> hallo
[20:46] <hendrik> It does contain "banker" and "baking" through.
[20:46] <hendrik> It does contain "banker" and "baking" through.
[20:46] <jorgemartin> hi
[20:46] <Horst> na meiner
[20:46] <dustofatk> right and thats an example why the all in one pages are better as u find that way with bank the dagobert quest
[20:46] <dustofatk> right and thats an example why the all in one pages are better as u find that way with bank the dagobert quest
[20:47] Bluelads4 will add "bank" to the quest page :D
[20:47] Bluelads4 will add "bank" to the quest page :D
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[20:49] <Bluelads4> at least to catch the right results for quests
[20:49] <Bluelads4> at least to catch the right results for quests
[20:50] <slady> area or region would help
[20:50] <slady> area or region would help
[20:52] <Bluelads4> I can work around adding the information
[20:52] <Bluelads4> on the quest pages I mean
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== We have about 10 minutes left. Are there other ideas to improve the website? ==
== We have about 10 minutes left. Are there other ideas to improve the website? ==
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[20:51] <akiraa> XD
[20:52] <Bluelads4> I can work around adding the information
[20:52] <Bluelads4> on the quest pages I mean
[20:52] <hendrik> Or perhaps even offers to help with the work on it?
[20:52] <hendrik> Or perhaps even offers to help with the work on it?
[20:52] <borgomatic> I think we could make a special front page for mobile users.
[20:52] <borgomatic> I think we could make a special front page for mobile users.
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[20:58] <slady> the whole HUD has to be redesined for mobile devices
[20:58] <slady> the whole HUD has to be redesined for mobile devices
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== Conclusion ==
== Conclusion ==
* Okay, thanks a lot for your feedback and ideas regarding the Stendhal website.
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[20:59] <hendrik> Okay, thanks a lot for your feedback and ideas regarding the Stendhal website. While we cannot add everything right away, the discussions was very helpful.
* While we cannot add everything right away, the discussions was very helpful.
[20:59] hendrik Thank you for attenting this meeting.
* Thank you for attending this meeting.
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Revision as of 19:05, 5 April 2014

On the 2nd we had a development meeting regarding recent changes to the Stendhal website and future plans. Please find a summary of the meeting below.


New unified search

  • There is now a search box in the upper right hand corner. It will find: Creatures, Items, Quests, Regions, Dungeons, pages from the manual and players.
  • Mostly positive feedback
  • Sometimes it is unclear, why certain results are included and other are not shown: When you search for a black sword, the result shows the black giant but not one of the other ones who drop it. Black giant, however, is not shown because it drops "black sword", but because it has both words in its description: "You see a tall black giant. His armor and sword will hit you hard. Be prepared!"
  • It might be a good idea to return the creature which drop a searched item. At least if it a rare item (e. g. not money).
  • It may be a good idea, to convert the search boxes for players, items, npcs, etc. to use the unified search as well, with a filter. For example a row of checkboxes like [_] Creature [_] Item [X] Player.
  • Multiple people did not notice the new search box. It's not close to the item/player sections so it does not work as a reminder. Upper right hand corner seems to be used on many website. But that it is very far away from the focus of attention. We might want to move it into the World guide navigation box.
  • Actually, position of the search box may be a good path to another topic.

How should the start page look like, in order to be attractive to new people as well as seasoned players?

  • At the moment, the start page has a lot of news, with quite a long history of old entries. New players are probably not interested in them.
  • More information about the game, not just the events that happen here
  • Games stats, like how many rooms, how many creatures, how many maps and

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Navigation menu

  • Draft structure of navigation menu
    • Idea 1: screenshots and movies into media, world guide and player guide into guide
    • Idea 2: About (Screenshots, Videos), World Guide (regions, items, ...), Player Guide (how to play), Community (Chat, Hall of fame), and Development.
  • Drop down menu or keep the current always visible menus
    • Drop down menus make the webpage a bit more "active"
    • It will not be that full with headlines and tabs
    • It's used like that on many pages I think so people will know how to work with that
  • JavaScript is not an issue for crawlers (e. g. Google)
    • Drop down menus work without JavaScript by linking to a page with the sub menus. For example https://stendhalgame.org/world.html
    • The complete menu exists in the html code, but is hidden via css, so still accessible to crawler.

Translation

Is the new integration of Wiki content a good idea and working properly?

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We have about 10 minutes left. Are there other ideas to improve the website?

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Conclusion

  • Okay, thanks a lot for your feedback and ideas regarding the Stendhal website.
  • While we cannot add everything right away, the discussions was very helpful.
  • Thank you for attending this meeting.