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Line 213: == Regions (need summary) == === Regions in Stendhal === * hendrik: There is something else related to zone and quests. * hendrik: I think it would be cool if we had a wiki page for each "region". Which says something about the history, what the region is about.▼ * superkym: Those ideas would still beed to be discussed a bit in #arianne i think. Some have been there for some time. * hendrik: For example Ados is a port-city.▼ * hendrik: It suffers from not having enough food.▼ * yoriy: hendrik, i guess Zynn Ivuhos have explanations for that wiki pages... :-)▼ * hendrik: It would be cool to have this information, which you can learn by talking to NPCs and solving quests, at one central place.▼ * Oslsachem: yes, the game needs more background story▼ * miasma: i could write a bit story but just in german * superkym: There is some of that information here: http://stendhal.game-host.org/wiki/index.php/StendhalAtlas#Places▼ * superkym: did you mean you would like that put into a wiki page for each place?▼ * Oslsachem: which can serve as a starting point for developing quests related with the plot▼ * hendrik: http://stendhal.game-host.org/wiki/index.php/StendhalAtlas#Places is a good starting point. But it needs quite a big of work. Perhaps even one article per city?▼ * superkym: there was a bit of an example started for semos village http://stendhal.game-host.org/wiki/index.php/Semos_Village▼ * superkym: but like the manual that page has an external image which needs to be uploaded to the wiki. and of course it needs more work▼ * hendrik: For me it is difficult to add new NPCs or quests because I know too little about the history. I may easily add some inconsistancies.▼ * hendrik: Yeah, that page is cool. * hendrik: We don't need something like that for every zone. But it would be really cool to have something like that for every region.▼ * plassy: the second version works great, too. * hendrik: By region I mean a group of zones that are related. For example Ados City spans multiple zones. * blackfinix: yes▼ * superkym: Why not the major regions as in that atlas link▼ * blackfinix: it shouldn't be too dificult▼ * plassy: maybe the problem is my client? i have a 0.77 client that is updated to 0.79 * hendrik: It is almost impossible for me, because I know too little about the world (I know staff about client-server communication, database access, finate state machines, ...) but thats not helpful here. * superkym: plassy you could therefore try getting the 0.79 as a clean download and report back? * hendrik: But those who actually play Stendhal can write it easily.▼ * storyteller: back again * blackfinix: I probably could do it▼ * plassy: sure * blackfinix: Im looking at the one for semos now▼ * superkym: the great thing about the wiki is that it is something anyone can edit, and history is always kept, so you don't need to feel afraid of it▼ * hendrik: Any volunteers? * blackfinix: I'll do it if no one else wants to▼ * hendrik: The one about Semos Village is very outdated. It was written at time before Hayunn was moved there.▼ * yoriy: i can i think - i playing often enough▼ * superkym: what should the page titles be▼ * blackfinix: ok yoriy * superkym: Semos ?▼ * hendrik: Cool. It is a lot of work, but every bit helps. And I guess it is good if multiple people contribute and share the workload. * tigertoes: it is something many people can do... just keep in mind that multiple people might be updating at same time * superkym: or Stendhal:Semos ? * hendrik: without prefix. * superkym: ok, just Semos , Ados etc then * hendrik: yes. * tigertoes: so dont open file to edit, let it sit for long time before committing▼ * blackfinix: And semos dungeons would be just one?▼ * superkym: and images can be uploaded to the wiki linke the small image of one zone which you can see roughly where to get from that semos village example, or you can cut out a bigger image from the atlan of you want a bigger area▼ * superkym: I think I would suggest that the Semos area page has details of the city, the village, the dungeons and maybe the plains around it▼ * superkym: what do you think hendrik? * kezman: upload and download? also?▼ * hendrik: superkym, yes. * kezman: :D * hendrik: Perhaps we can even add the concept of "regions" to the world in the future. * Oslsachem: hendrik what would be the concept of regions? * blackfinix: i wish i had an apple now ;) * hendrik: Oslsachem, 0_semos_village_w, 0_semos_city, 0_semos_plains_n are all part of "Semos Area". * superkym: so are -1_semos_dungeons * hendrik: they have one common theme. * yoriy: as well as int_semos_bank int_semos_townhall... * hendrik: Semos is a rural area. * hendrik: for low level players. Line 284 ⟶ 232: * hendrik: and so on. * blackfinix: yes * porl: when can we do a raid? * hendrik: Perhaps we can even group them losely by player level. * superkym: porl, this meeting is about contributions to the game and the topic we are currently on is how people can help with the wiki * hendrik: so as a low level player you are best in Semos Area. * superkym: hendrik, isn't what you said all already true? * plassy: it starts to lagg when i begin to attak. if i don't attak it wont slow down * hendrik: if you get stronger, you move on to xxxx. And then to yyyy. * blackfinix: hendrik you mean like green, yellow, red for danger levels? (or 1,2,3) Line 302 ⟶ 247: * hendrik: those names are there for technical reasons. * hendrik: I guess we still need them. But I would like to have some in-game names. Not on a per zone basis. * yoriy: we can probably have aliases for zones * hendrik: yoriy, I am suggesting that we identify regions. For in game reasons. * plassy: yes this "technical" names should not be visible to the players * hendrik: zone are something that is there for technical reasons. * hendrik: a "region" is ~~usally~~usually something that spawns multiple zones. * hendrik: for example: Ados ~~citiy~~city is so huge that it has multiple zones. * yoriy: what if show to player something like "You are inside Semos city bank" * hendrik: But from a players point of view that is Ados city. Line 340 ⟶ 282: * superkym: hendrik i can show you such an area later if you like * hendrik: yes, please. === Wiki === ▲* hendrik: I think it would be cool if we had a wiki page for each "region". Which says something about the history, what the region is about. ▲* hendrik: For example Ados is a port-city. ▲* hendrik: It suffers from not having enough food. ▲* yoriy: hendrik, i guess Zynn Ivuhos have explanations for that wiki pages... :-) ▲* hendrik: It would be cool to have this information, which you can learn by talking to NPCs and solving quests, at one central place. ▲* Oslsachem: yes, the game needs more background story ▲* superkym: There is some of that information here: http://stendhal.game-host.org/wiki/index.php/StendhalAtlas#Places ▲* superkym: did you mean you would like that put into a wiki page for each place? ▲* Oslsachem: which can serve as a starting point for developing quests related with the plot ▲* hendrik: http://stendhal.game-host.org/wiki/index.php/StendhalAtlas#Places is a good starting point. But it needs quite a big of work. Perhaps even one article per city? ▲* superkym: there was a bit of an example started for semos village http://stendhal.game-host.org/wiki/index.php/Semos_Village ▲* superkym: but like the manual that page has an external image which needs to be uploaded to the wiki. and of course it needs more work ▲* hendrik: For me it is difficult to add new NPCs or quests because I know too little about the history. I may easily add some inconsistancies. ▲* hendrik: We don't need something like that for every zone. But it would be really cool to have something like that for every region. ▲* superkym: Why not the major regions as in that atlas link ▲* blackfinix: it shouldn't be too dificult ▲* hendrik: But those who actually play Stendhal can write it easily. ▲* blackfinix: I probably could do it ▲* blackfinix: Im looking at the one for semos now ▲* superkym: the great thing about the wiki is that it is something anyone can edit, and history is always kept, so you don't need to feel afraid of it ▲* blackfinix: I'll do it if no one else wants to ▲* hendrik: The one about Semos Village is very outdated. It was written at time before Hayunn was moved there. ▲* yoriy: i can i think - i playing often enough ▲* superkym: what should the page titles be ▲* blackfinix: ~~yes~~ok yoriy ▲* superkym: ok, just Semos ?, Ados etc then ▲* tigertoes: so dont open file to edit, let it sit for long time before committing ▲* blackfinix: And semos dungeons would be just one? ▲* superkym: and images can be uploaded to the wiki linke the small image of one zone which you can see roughly where to get from that semos village example, or you can cut out a bigger image from the atlan of you want a bigger area ▲* superkym: I think I would suggest that the Semos area page has details of the city, the village, the dungeons and maybe the plains around it ▲* kezman: upload and download? also? == Stendhal Atlas image ==

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