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Line 8: Cleaned up the tutorial, it was still talking about double clicking for example. Rats in Semos Village don't run away anymore so it is be easier for new players to kill them. * There ~~have been~~were suggestions to tell new players about: Players can run faster than most creatures to get away {{Tracker\|3020813}} Player can eat while fighting. {{Tracker\|3020115}} Line 45: NPCs selling items (for example xin blanca selling low level items), quest rewards? * laguz is going to [[Stendhal_Item_Ideas#List_of_weapons_and_armor_items_and_their_min_levels\|work]] on the creature based approach == New dungeons == * killerm proposed the creation of a new Dungeon * there is a tutorial on how to add maps at [[HowToUseTiledToCreateStendhalMaps]] * [[Stendhal Creature Ideas]] explains which information is necessary to create new creatures and [[HowToAddCreaturesStendhal]] is the technical counterpart * please join #{{irc-arianne}} on ~~irc~~IRC to discuss the creation of new dungeons in great detail == New quests == * omero suggested a 'cheque' you can spend at one of the seller ~~npc~~NPC▼ ▲* omero suggested a 'cheque' you can spend at one of the seller npc === Random Teleport === Line 72: ===Fetching books quest === * omero suggested a repeatable [[StendhalQuest#Help_Ceryl_find_an_old_book\|fetch the book]] quest for different npcs (add quest link) * the npc would have the book and the player collects it * it could be hidden around them for player to find Line 78 ⟶ 79: === Runes quest === * reading a word from a book to collect which is hidden is similar to a [[Stendhal_Quest_Ideas#Dungeon_portal_runes\|runes quest idea]] ~~(add existing idea link)~~ * runes could be used to get players into dungeons == More storage == * Players ask for more space in chests {{Tracker\|1713621}} * You already get more space as you grow stronger and get access to banks in more cities * Many players don't seem to use the far chests like Ados or Zara's much * We are working on containers so that you can buy or get rewarded a bag, a box, scroll wallet, etc ~~(add tracker)~~{{Tracker\|2933768}} * But putting a big box inside a chest sounds strange * Changing size of chest mid game is not possible. * Pets could have bag spaces ~~(add tracker)~~{{Tracker\|1937766}} * Chest in spots like dungeons, maybe just storage spaces under a stone, say, but open to all, not private. i think that storyteller suggested something very similar ~~(add tracker)~~{{Tracker\|2974131}} * Portable chests == Account and character handling == * hendrik described the changes, which are now summarized at: [[Stendhal Account Merging]] * existing accounts can be merged (see link above) Line 105 ⟶ 104: == Password Sharing == * [[Stendhal Rules\|rules]] should be translated (start is done, please help) * it is prohibited to share passwords for a number of reasons: Line 119 ⟶ 117: * on http://stendhalgame.org there is a "login" link in the upper right hand corner. * this login button should be made a little bit more eye-catching, perhaps over the "Play now" and over the "Download" button * the website has information which may also be useful to see in game, e.g. drops from a creature == Testing web starter == Line 148 ⟶ 147: * If you know other languages, please help with that. * Either by improving already existing translations or adding new ones. * Oslsachem translated to Spain and offered to do ~~Protuguese~~Portuguese * omero offered to translate the rules to Italian ~~<div style="background-color:#FCC; padding: 1em; border: 3px solid red">~~ ~~<div style="font-size:14px; font-weight: bold"> TODO </div>~~ ~~=== Misc ===~~ ~~<torvald> another thing would be to include information from the web site. as for example a creature lexicon, where you can see drops and their likelyhood by clicking on a creature~~ [20:47] <storyteller> Well, to the website thing: In my opinion the webside should be made more attractive, also to be made interactive to use by the way while playing [20:49] <kezman> area to trade is need in ados bank [20:49] <superkym> kezman: noted. === Translating game === The translation system we had in place was removed since nobody ever completed 5% of translation needed * It was promised that if anyone completes more than 75% it can be re added * Coding it is rather simple * Commitment would be needed to keep translating new material also [21:14] <Oslsachem> I wonder if having internationalization for the game is feasible [21:15] <Oslsachem> or if the grammar system is a problem [21:15] <superkym> Oslsacheam, oh, isn't that against what you usually cite as a main rule for stendhal? [21:15] <superkym> That all players should see the same thing? [21:15] <hendrikus> No, the grammar is not the issue. The problem is that it is a huge amount of work. And everyone who tried has given up after a couple of weeks. [21:16] <Oslsachem> of course, kym. But in real life we also see the same things and people can speak with customers in different languages [21:16] <Oslsachem> I am not afraid of the work [21:21] <Oslsachem> the only worry I have is that the internationalization makes the code more cumbersome, quests for example. [21:22] <superkym> I have no idea up front how that would be done or maintained. [21:22] <hendrikus> We had a translation system in place already. [21:22] <hendrikus> But since nobody ever completed 5%, i removed it. [21:22] <hendrikus> I promised to readd it, if there is at least 75% translated. [21:23] <hendrikus> But that will probably take half a year of full time work. [21:23] <Oslsachem> ok, are the instructions for translating available somewhere? [21:23] <Oslsachem> so much text? [21:23] <hendrikus> Oslsachem, i can look for it after the meeting. [21:24] <Oslsachem> anyway, it would need the commitment of people who writes new content to keep it going. [21:24] <superkym> Commitment? [21:24] <hendrikus> I cannot provide a spanish translation for stuff I add. [21:25] <superkym> What if the people who write new content do not speak every translated language? [21:25] <Oslsachem> I mean writing the code using templates or whatever [21:25] <hendrikus> That is as easy as putting _( and ) around every string. [21:26] <Oslsachem> that's the difficult part? [21:26] <hendrikus> The difficult part is to stay commited to translate it. [21:27] <tigertoes> exactly [21:27] <hendrikus> As I said all people gave up after a couple of weeks. [21:27] <Oslsachem> the whole tranlation is stored in a single file then? [21:28] <hendrikus> Oslsachem we should discuss that at the next meeting or in #arianne. [21:28] <Oslsachem> ok, I'll give it a try and perhaps other will follow in other languages. ~~</div>~~ == Closing meeting == IWe'd like to thank everyone for attending.▼ * We ~~will~~ put up a chatlog and a summary on the wiki and put a link on http://stendhalgame.org▼ ▲* I like to thank everyone for attending. ▲* We will put up a chatlog and a summary on the wiki and put a link on http://stendhalgame.org * Feel free to join us in [http://stendhalgame.org/chat/ #arianne] on freenode at any time.