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Line 1: {{Navigation for Stendhal Top\|Developing}} ~~{{TODO\|Creation of this page is in progress. This is not a real chat log. Comments have been removed, sorted and edited.}}~~ {{Navigation for Stendhal Developers}} {{Stendhal Development Meeting 2009-11-22}} == Mixed Things == * /ignore currently only works for /tell but it should work for public chat, too - this is being worked on ({{tracker\|2872361}}) * "Strongest player" on website should be sorted by karma as second sort criterion because of the max level limit ({{tracker\|2905264}}). * It was suggested that animal masks from Fidorea in ados could stay longer than 2 hours, for example for 2 days. Perhaps with additional fees. * blackfinix offered to update the [[StendhalManual]] and embed the referenced images by uploading them to the Wiki (<del>{{tracker\|2892214}}</del> ''fixed by kiheru and kymara''). * Enabled and minimized keyring pops up on every zone change (<del>~~[http://sourceforge.net/~~{{tracker~~/index.php?func=detail&aid=~~\|1815905~~&group_id=1111&atid=101111 bug #1815905]~~}}</del> fixed) * It was requested to have an npc to sell armors to which you can not sell to other npcs * The black pearl image could be improved (done; a new image in CVS now) * An NPC for offering items to other players in being worked on == Mute == * /mute should to be remembered across restarts (<del>{{tracker\|2880973}}</del> fixed). * the command could be more user friendly: /mute instead of the confusing "/sound mute on" and "/sound mute off" (<del>{{tracker\|2905154}}</del> fixed). ~~== Summon Scrolls ==~~ * Summon scrolls should become more powerful if you use them repeatedly. * That was the original plan but there are some issues: * Problem: Summoned Creatures had scaling issues with the old RP-fighting rules: Creatures are balanced to attack players who are wearing armor Creatures don't wear armor, so summoned creatures win against them easily. ** Need to reevaluate with the new RP-fighting rules. * Problem: Someone could summon a very big creature right outside Semos then. * If we make the protection more fine grained, the low protection areas could allow stronger monsters to be summoned * Perhaps limiting the summoning to creatures who are on these maps? For example on a map which only hosts rats, you can just summon rats there. * Are summoned creatures an advantage if limited like this? * All in all: More powerful summoned creatures are very interesting but this needs to be approached carefully == Size of bag == Line 44 ⟶ 32: * There should be poison arrows and weapons currently only players can be poisoned, needs some moving of code blocks those weapons should be created by the adventurers by applying poison to them ({{tracker\|1591445}}) * there should be special antidotes for stronger poison Line 61 ⟶ 49: == Quest Log == * We want a quest log that records the progress of quests ({{tracker\|1716575}}). ~~For example something like this:~~ * For example something like this: Helping Tad I have met Tad in Semos Townhall He asked me to buy a flask from Margaret in Semos Tavern. Line 93 ⟶ 81: * those text boxed may guide you * or there may be a in world sign near the city entrance which points to the important locations ~~== Trade System ==~~ * A trade system was asked about and it was confirmed that we are working on it == Training == Line 115 ⟶ 100: * It was suggested that new players should be able get some very good items with quests - again this would be unbalanced * Amulets were mentioned but without any suggestion of what purpose they would have == Client Performance == * There had some performance problems in the drawing code of the client in the past which we think we fixed in 0.79 * If anyone still has problems like the chat bar not reacting to newly typed letters quickly enough, please contact /support and try to include information about your operating system and java version. * We have three clients for you to test if you are still suffering client side lag. They use different ways to synchronize the drawing with the reset of the game. * On some systems, the client gets a lot faster when starting it with java -Dsun.java2d.opengl=true -jar stendhal-0.79.jar * Adding -Xmx200m may help, too. == Random == Line 125 ⟶ 118: * apple schnapps, perhaps acting like poison to make it more difficult to walk when drunk * it was suggested that mithril boots may have to low def ~~== Client Performance ==~~ * There had some performance problems in the drawing code of the client in the past which we think we fixed in 0.79 * If anyone still has problems like the chat bar not reacting to newly typed letters quickly enough, please contact /support and try to include information about your operating system and java version. * We have three clients for you to test if you are still suffering client side lag. They use different ways to synchronize the drawing with the reset of the game. * On some systems, the client gets a lot faster when starting it with java -Dsun.java2d.opengl=true -jar stendhal-0.79.jar * Adding -Xmx200m may help, too. ~~== World Map / Regions ==~~ ~~=== Regions in Stendhal ===~~ * there are already "regions" like Semos (with the city, village and farm), Ados (city is multi zone), Nalwor Forrest, ... * each region has a theme Semos is a rural region for low level players Ados a port city with a food issue ** Nalwor is an elvish region * perhaps regions may be suitable for level-ranges as a rule we stick to keeping the Semos areas safer, not putting crazy creatures there, nalwor is indeed the elvish area, and so on we already have the idea that the further you go from Semos City the less safe it is ** perhaps we can make that more obvious to players * regions vs. zone currently the main way to identify your position in the world is the zone name. something like 0_semos_city, int_semos_townhall, 0_semos_village_w. those names are there for technical reasons. I guess we still need them. But I would like to have some in-game names. Not on a per zone basis. a "region" is usually something that spawns multiple zones. Ados city is so huge that it has multiple zones. But from a players point of view that is Ados city. We probably should use the current zone names as subtitle. * maps we currently don't have a map in game because it uses to much memory to display it. but we may be able to create multiple maps. One per region. those would be a lot smaller. like the map of ados city that Julius gives out * those regions should be more visible for example with a transparent message on screen when you enter another region there are zone entrance messages a message you get every time when you go from say Orril to Nalwor. but without the white background so that it is not annoying. or the messaging area text, is less annoying because it doesn't pop up, like /me in chat we do have a global coordinate system for all maps, except those starting with "int_". ~~=== Wiki ===~~ * it would be cool if we had a wiki page for each "region". * it should say something about the region, the background story, what makes it special, its history, etc. * many NPCs in world give useful background information about the regions they are in. It would be very useful to have that on the Wiki (without spoiling the quests) * examples Ados is a port-city. It suffers from not having enough food. Semos consists of an old village and a small city. It is a rural area. * a good starting point is [[StendhalAtlas]], which already [[StendhalAtlas#Places\|lists some regions]]. * such collected background stories will make it easier to write new quests that fit into the theme. * suggested page content a small image of the map background story about the whole region points of interests out-of-character information for players photos (screenshots) see [[Semos]] for a first example * blackfinix and yoriy volunteered * more help welcomed ~~=== Expanding the world ===~~ * Will the map become extended with the next release? * There are still many empty spots, so we prefer to focus on improving existing zones rather than adding new ones ~~=== Stendhal Atlas image ===~~ * The [http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/421/worlddungeonsdy8.png map with dungeon entrances] is very outdated (0.62 instead of 0.79). * Currently it is created manually by drawing the circles right into the .pnh file * The [[StendhalAtlas]] should be a two layer image instead the generated map images the yellow circle overlay * So the overlay can easily be applied to new versions of the map file * Other map topics: jpeg was suggested as image file format region boarders (see region section) could be added as a layer, too * tigertoes <del>volunteered to create the multi layer map as Gimp .xcf file</del> created [[media:WorldWithMarkedDungeons091122.xcf\|WorldWithMarkedDungeons091122.xcf]].