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After we had our first real life meet up in Hannover in march 2010 to the [[Arianne Project Meeting 2010|10th birthday of the Arianne project]] and the social summer meeting which we had in september 2010, we decided to set up our second social meeting in february 2011. After finding a date which we set up from the 23rd of february to the 27th of february, we decided to spent these days in Berlin together. Therefore we found a really nice apartment in the middle of Berlin which wasn't expensive at all and had enough space for everyone and this time, even a useable kitchen with all the equipment we needed for creating some really nice meals. Thank you Katie for your really tasty cooked meals :)
[[Image:Storytellers_stendhal_sign.png|200px|right]]
Hello everyone :)


The attendees of the meeting this time were: ''Hendrik, Markus, Katie, Silvio, Vanessa, Simon and Frank.''
As though as the planning for the last [[Summer_Social_Meeting_2010-09|summer social meeting 2010]] was a bit stressful and just in time, I would like to suggest an earlier planning here to make sure that we find a place this time in which we can combine some sighseeing with fun and seing something from the region as well around the place where we will stay at :)


This page here can be used for writing some ideas around a possible next meeting down :) Discussions in #arianne-chat are allowed as well :D hehe


==Events==
= Location =


===Wednesday===
== City suggestions ==
* '''Berlin'''
* Frankfurt/Wiesbaden
* Freiburg
* Some city in the south
* Cologne
* Halle/Saxony
* Dortmund
* Hannover
* Ahrweiler
* Brussels
* Hamburg
* Other city suggestions?


== Arrival possibility ==
==== Arrival====
[[Image:Storytellers_stendhal_sign.png|200px|left]]


Although cars were really useful in Hilchenbach the last time, we decided to go to Berlin by train. Everyone booked some tickets for different ICEs and we met all up in Berlin between 14.00 and 16.30. Katie, Markus, Hendrik, Simon and Vanessa grabbed the same train which arrived at 15.10, Silvio waited for them at the main station already and Frank joined them later.
=== Frankfurt===
* Train (Huge train station in Frankfurt, smaller one in Wiesbaden)
* Airport Frankfurt
* Car - Autobahn


After we all arrived a bit tired after a long travel, we decided to spend the rest of the day calmly and relaxing. We went to our apartment which included 3 bedrooms with singlebeds and one room with a doublebed, a huge kitchen, a dining room, 2 bathrooms and a really annoying "woman" called Stella, the unstable WLAN connection :D Now it was time to get something to eat and drink cause we were all starving and thirsty.
=== Freiburg ===
* Train (Huge train station in Freiburg)
* Airport Freiburg (need to check if Turku/Tampere and London will be in there)
* Car - Autobahn


Good that we found a supermarket close to the appartment, approximetly 5 minutes away. And then it started...
=== Cologne ===
* Train (Huge train station in Cologne)
* Airport Cologne/Bonn (need to check if Turku/Tampere will fly there - London flies, it's expensive but it does fly.)
* Car - Autobahn


=== Ahrweiler ===
==== Food food food!====
* Airport then to Bonn (19 minutes by train, Vanessa would catch people from there)
* Train
** to Bonn central station (ICE for example from Hannover to Bonn)
** Train from Bonn central station to Ahrweiler (around 35 minutes)
* Car - Autobahn


The supermarket invasion began and we went out of it with around 6 to 7 bags which shouted already cause they were extremely heavy and filled up till top. Phew, we were happy when we arrived into our 5-days home again...and that all important bottles didn't break on our way :D
=== Brussels ===
* Thalis over Cologne (29 euro early booking)


But we still had a big plan for the evening: Katies birthday party :)
= Time for the meeting =


==== Katies birthday party ====
== Dates ==


After returning home from our shopping trip, we unpacked all of the bags which we brought with us into the apartment. We were all still hungry, so Katie started to cook a lovely tasty meal for us. We bought some sausages and beans as well as potatoes, red cabbage and green cabbage. Katie threw the sausages and beans together with tomatoes in a baking dish and placed it into the oven while the potatoes and different cabbage kinds boiled on the hot plates. A really yummi meal, which we all enjoyed :)!
'''Please think about a date/time where you are available, because the time is running fast at the moment and reservations for so many people should be made in time :) (related to the ones who didn't comment up yet to it) - Thank you :) - '''


Then the actual birthday party started and we started to celebrate with some nice music - thank you Simon to take the speakers with you again and Katie for the music :) - streamers and balloons included :) We drank some wine, whisky and non-alcoholic drinks, laughed together while playing "cheat" - the game which we played in Hannover too - and had a really nice evening :)
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|21.4. - 24.4.||maybe||maybe ||no|| maybe||maybe|| maybe||yes||
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===Thursday===
* Somewhere in February/March/April ?
<del>* sushi</del>
** Vanessa: I'm personally "free" from februrary (from the 12th) up to the first march weekend and up from the 22nd of March to the first of april (which isn't that a long time distance :( shitty term papers!!!)
<del>* Bode museum</del>
** Simon: I have to check again when I can get some free days. But the general date in february/march/april ist fine :) (other dates may be also okay if I can get some free days then)
<del>* 3 days museum card</del>
** Plassy has holidays from the 21.2. till 25.2. and 16.5. till 27.5.; hard for him to get free on dates outside from his holidays
<del>* cafe</del>
** Katie: Can't do: 6th Feb, 19th Feb, or 21st and 22nd Feb. I prefer to do this before 31st March because I thought we planned a holiday and so I saved my holiday days and worked all through Christmas. They expire by 1st April.
<del>* shopping</del>
** Vanessa (again :D): I have holidays around eastern (maybe a job there, so that is vague) from the 22. till 25. april. These two weeks around eastern are school holidays in Germany, so we have to book fast if we want to have the meeting in that time there :), could be that I have a job from april to may --> forgot about university :P it starts again on the first of april, so I'm just available at the weekends there, not on thursday and friday up to evening
<del>* cooking</del>
** Simon says: I checked my dates where it is possible to get some free days. Some dates are definetely impossible for me. The ones which are marked as "probably" and "maybe" are the dates where I would have to take free days, the dates marked with "yes" are nearly completely safe. It should be no problem to take some free days, but as I said, I have no 100 percent chance that it will definetely work.
<del>* drinking ^^</del>
<del>* playing games</del>


== How long? ==
===Friday===
* Neue Nationalgalerie
* 3-4 days like in Hilchenbach? (would be thursday-sunday)
* Cafe
** Simon: Yes, four days is nice in my view :) The last meeting wasn't too short and also not too long ;)
* Brandenburger Tor
* Over a weekend is necessary for most people who work normal mon-fri type jobs
* Reichtsagsgebäude
* Kommunikationsmuseum
* Checkpoint Charly
* italian restaurant - drinks
* shopping
* cooking
* games + drinks + movie


===Saturday===
= A Place to stay =
* Release
* Technikmuseum
* Sciencemuseum/restaurant
* plans for evening
* shopping
* special dinner!
* 2 movies + stendhal games + drinks


===Sunday===
* Hotel rooms --> flexible in relation to number of attendees, everyone can search for a hotel after his "needs"
* playing Bingo
* "Hilchenbach-like" house/apartment in which everyone can stay at --> more familial but related to the numbers of attendees, insecure (also related to price)
* packing stuff
* cleaning up
* staying a bit in apartment, playing stendhal :P
* leaving time
* bus travel to main station
* different ways after that


== Kind of place ==
== Photos ==
[[Social Meeting february 2011/Photos]]
=== Frankfurt ===
* Not many holiday appartments or holiday houses around --> Vanessa: Checked some of the main pages for such stuff, but just found the link below wich would take enough place for us all (there are around 10 people who will maybe join)
* Appartments for 2-4 people on http://www.tourist-online.de/Ferienwohnung-Rheingau-Taunus.html#Beschreibung
** is that okay or more independence needed?

=== Cologne ===
* http://www.ferienhausmiete.de/ferienhaus_details.php?obj_nr=31203#preis
* http://www.fewo-direkt.de/ferienwohnung-ferienhaus/p545705
* http://www.fewos-koeln.de/page3.php
* http://gloveler.de/wohnung/K%C3%B6ln/ferienwohnung-koeln-rath
* https://buchung.casamundo.de/houseinfo.php?SearchId=381919 This one is according to the linked page not available for the planned date.
* http://www.hotelbb.de/cms/tourismussuite/portal/de/ibe/index.html?kunde_code=null&cleardaten=true&partner=null&seite=result&ibemode=include&internalLink=/de/buchung/buchung/house-details.html&haus_id=1006125&hotelSchluessel=4&hotelSchluessel_p=4
* http://www1.ihacom.de/Ferienvermietung/Deutschland/Nordrhein-westfalen/Regierungsbezirk-koln/Siegburg/Haus_61266_1.htm&x=.wgr@oloi079B54D-inq=Ne7zJm
* http://www.bonnzimmer.de/buchung/details/k125b-ferienhaus-in-siegburg-53721.html same as the previous link
* http://www.bonnzimmer.de/buchung/details/k028-ferienhaus-in-koenigswinter-oberpleis.html

=== Ahrweiler ===
* http://www.koertgens.de/index.php?id=531 a vineyard
** Vanessa visited that one already and it is really sweet and lovely there, two appartment, for 10 people at all
** 2 apartments:
*** 1. 4 people, kitchen, big bathroom, double-couch in living room (quite comfortable), bedroom with a double bed
*** 2. 6 people, kitchen (big one), bathroom, bedroom with doublebed, one room with a double-couch, living room with double-couch
restaurant + winecellar given
:How much do they cost? [[User:Kymara|Kymara]] is too english to try read the whole page.

The prices are the following ones:

* 1. appartment "Zur Kastanie" (6 people) = '''105€ /night'''
** prices related to: 2 people = 65€/night
** each more person + 10€

* 2. appartment "Zur Remise" (4 people) = '''79€ /night'''
** prices related to: 2 people = 59€/night
** each more person + 10€

If we are going to share the total costs of both together (which is maybe ok because we would all use the bigger appartment I bet), it would be:

'''184€ / night'''

If we stay from thursday till sunday (3 nights) it will be:

552€ at all, devided by for example 10 people (if all attendees come): 55,20€

I'll ask my cousin if she can maybe ask for a special price offer for us :P She has some good contacts sometimes :D (Vanessa)

== Price ideas ==
* Hilchenbach was about 96 euro / person excluded food which was around 40 euro
** Price ok or too high?
*** Simon: The price was very nice in my view
*** Yeah fine by me [[User:Kymara|Kymara]]
** What is the tolerance area?
*** Simon: Hmm, the maximum for everything would be 200 Euro for me, I'd say...
*** sky's the limit baby I work hard for a living [[User:Kymara|Kymara]]

= Activities =

== Sightseeing ==
* Ideas on wikitravel
** http://wikitravel.org/en/Wiesbaden
** http://wikitravel.org/en/Frankfurt
** http://wikitravel.org/en/Cologne
** http://wikitravel.org/en/Freiburg

== Talks? ==
* Do we need talks like in Hannover last march?
** If so: talk suggestions
** or workshops, I.e. more practical and collaborative but still stendhal development as a focus

* Personally I think some little focus might be fun even if just one day. Not necessarily formal talks as we may not have the equipment but perhaps some workshops would work well. [[User:Kymara|Kymara]]

== Evening Activities ==
=== outside ===
* What about visiting a nice bar or pub one evening?
* Exploring the city
* barbecue? --> maybe not the right time of a year for having a barbecue, definetly related to weather and location
* If we're in a rural location we could bring a ball or something and play some outdoor games .. that would have been cool in hilchenbach

=== inside ===
* Playing really funny games like Bingo, Pairs or Guess what I am? :D
* cooking together?
* watching a film

=== Frankfurt ===
* Maybe driving to Frankfurt one day and explore the city there (appr. 25 minutes away)

=== Cologne ===
* chocolate museum
* http://www.schlossbruehl.de/Home
* Dome
* Bonn? (25 minutes away)
* http://www.phantasialand.de/eng/

=== Ahrweiler ===
* Bonn/Cologne not that far away
* nice environment
* Bad Neuenahr close (casino there, nice town)
* http://www.bad-neuenahr-ahrweiler.de/
* http://www.ahrtal-express.de/
* http://wikitravel.org/de/Bad_Neuenahr-Ahrweiler (just german)
* http://www.ahrtalfilm.de/video/ahrweiler.html (video Ahrweiler, german but nice pictures)

= Attendees =
* [[User:blacklads|Vanessa]] (So excited as Simon :D)
* Simon (Uhh, I'm very excited! :D)
* Marco
* Frank (?)
* [[User:kymara|Katie]] sure, you know i'll try to make it.
* [[User:madmetzger|Markus]]
* Hendrik (?)
* [[User:kiheru|Kimmo]] (?)
* Silvio
* Astrid (?)

= Link collection by Vanessa (just for her, she googles now and checks the links out tomorrow) =
* http://www.fewo-ahrtal-weiler.de/
* http://www.fewo-direkt.de/ferienwohnung-ferienhaus/p519766
* http://www.fewo-direkt.de/ferienwohnung-ferienhaus/p528038
* http://www.fewo-direkt.de/ferienwohnung-ferienhaus/p530145
* http://www.fewo-direkt.de/ferienwohnung-ferienhaus/p511700
* http://www.fewo-direkt.de/urlaub-ferienwohnung-ferienhaus/deutschland/berlin/r125#/search/Regionen:125/page:1//arrival:2011-02-23//departure:2011-02-27?minBedrooms/4/minSleeps/8/clear/0&2
* http://www.fewo-direkt.de/ferienwohnung-ferienhaus/p118696t